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he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in, he knew them. >> steve: investigators at the time thought it could be drug related because in addition to having their throats slit, they were covered with marijuana. so they said okay. this is suspicious. didn't talk to him. now suddenly this is a lead. >> brian: let's talk about canada. salute the canadians, they have thwarted a plot that al-qaeda was putting together before it was implemented that would have them blowing up a train that was going from canada to the u.s. nome did they say it was al-qaeda inspired,
he -- tamerlan. he did not go to the funeral or call the family, and so there were some questions being asked at the time and now there is a lot of questions being asked, could tamerlan have been involved in those three murders? >> brian: the people that knew all three of them said at the same time after tamerlan was killed and after he did the bombing, they said i wonder if he was involved in this triple murder and there was no forced entry because it would insinuate that whoever got in,...
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in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> but napolitano's statements chronic with what assistant fbi briefed another lawmaker who is a member of the judiciary committee. >> the fbi told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled so i would like to talk to you more about this case. how this man left. where he went, and when we say there was no broader plot here, i don't know how in the world we know that at this early stage. reporter: napolitano testifying the system that flags border agents to individuals under investigation, like tamerlan tsarnaev, was no longer valid and expired by the time the 26-year-old returned from russ
in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed....
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we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> napolitano said the lookout system that flags agents federal investigation no longer active when tamerlan returned from russia in july of 2012. >> the system picked up departure but did not pick him coming back, correct? >> the fbi text alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> napolitano's pluck contradict briefing given by the fbi director. >> after talking to the fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled.
we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged...
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nell neil we -- >> neil: we know the fbi was alerted to tamerlan and his trips. gone through everything, his associations, everything about the guy, and they gave him the clean bill of health. they couldn't we d anything. we do know enough that about. we also know there might have been other requests for information on the younger brother. but there was enough outside interest expressed abroad to at least look at one of these suspects here that -- it does stretch credulity to wonder if it was left to just these guys? >> by the way, let's not forget, there were additional arrests in connection with this case over the weekend in the boston area. there will five additional arrests connected to this boston bombing and possibly to these bombers. so, come on. but i think, lock, the overseas trip is the key and it's interesting, janet napolitano can the department of homeland security chief, neil, says there was a ping when the older brother went to russia. okay. was there a ping when he returned? apparently not. because apparently, after he was there for six months, no
nell neil we -- >> neil: we know the fbi was alerted to tamerlan and his trips. gone through everything, his associations, everything about the guy, and they gave him the clean bill of health. they couldn't we d anything. we do know enough that about. we also know there might have been other requests for information on the younger brother. but there was enough outside interest expressed abroad to at least look at one of these suspects here that -- it does stretch credulity to wonder if it...
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just remember this, last year tamerlan had a 9/11 party. would you have not had liked had all the license plates and photographs from the people who attended that? >> good point. last word steve emerson. >> look, he was obviously, he should have been on the radar screen. they dropped the ball here. no doubt about it. the russians provided e-mails and phone conversations, summaries of him calling chechnyaian terrorists. why didn't they follow up? that's a question not answered yet. >> mark, thanks for being with us and steve bank you for being back. we appreciate it. we will continue to follow both angles here. coming up, the senior u.s. official is now confirming that boston was merely the first target of these brothers. we are going to tell you what mainly city they planned to hit next when we return. plus meet katheryn russell. she's the 24-year-old woman who was married to one of terrorists. was she involved and did she know her husband was making bombs inside their massachusetts apartment? and ann coulter is here and she will respond an
just remember this, last year tamerlan had a 9/11 party. would you have not had liked had all the license plates and photographs from the people who attended that? >> good point. last word steve emerson. >> look, he was obviously, he should have been on the radar screen. they dropped the ball here. no doubt about it. the russians provided e-mails and phone conversations, summaries of him calling chechnyaian terrorists. why didn't they follow up? that's a question not answered yet....
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hey guys, do you know what else happened in 2009, the fbi questioned tamerlan tsarnaev. and decided that he wasn't a person of interest. what, do you think, dana the fish stinks from the head? >> i don't know if i would say that about our government. i do think when they used the language to use overseas contingency operation those are weasel words that the government uses to come up. translated into arabic that is they aren't serious. you don't have to worry about them coming after you the global war on terror was much more start. if you are. >> sizes and lots of different places and go on forever. are you going to be fighting this war forever? i'm very comfortable with that can i see when they were trying to do. i think they watered it down and they should go back to being a little bit tougher. >> and word ward, greg. he basically said it's not a big event because only a few people lost their lives. it wasn't like a 9/11 he said. so is that where the bar is now. thousands need to die in order tore the media wake up and see the threat of radical islam. >> right about th
hey guys, do you know what else happened in 2009, the fbi questioned tamerlan tsarnaev. and decided that he wasn't a person of interest. what, do you think, dana the fish stinks from the head? >> i don't know if i would say that about our government. i do think when they used the language to use overseas contingency operation those are weasel words that the government uses to come up. translated into arabic that is they aren't serious. you don't have to worry about them coming after you...